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  • staghound MKIII

    Hola,

    Ando buscando perfiles de color e ideas para hacer el staghound MKIII de Italeri



    Si posible que no sea en el tipico verde, no me importa el teatro de operaciones ni si es post-segunda guerra mundial. (incluso lo prefiero siempre y cuando sea algo original)

    Gracias,

    Santiago

  • #2
    Respuesta: staghound MKIII

    He visto algún perfil del MkIII en verde base con Mickey Mouse en negro, pero ignoro si hay alguna foto que lo corrobore. El MkIII entró en servicio en los últimos meses de la guerra y el verde oliva reinaba en solitario por entonces.
    Javier de Luelmo - Diesel
    DieselWerk - DieselMaschinen

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    • #3
      Respuesta: staghound MKIII

      Hola Santiago

      yo tambien estuve buscando sobre este modelo en concreto.

      la informacion que tengo es solo de la segunda, nada de posguerra.

      segun varias fuentes consultadas llegaron a inglaterra en OD americano y despues de la modificacion se repintaron en SCC15 ingles.

      la principal unidad fue canadiense XII Manitoba Dragons y según las instrucciones de bronco los neozelandeses los emplearon al final de la guerra en Italia con un camo en verde y arena.

      te paso varios enlaces y textos de un Osprey dedicado al satghound escrito por Zaloga, y parte de unos mail mios de consulta a Mike Starmer y su combinacion de colores para el SCC15.

      espero que te sirva.

      Xavier

      libros.
      Osprey new vanguard nº 159
      ampersand publishing, The staghound
      http://www.modelbooks.republika.pl/aph/aph001.html

      texto extraido de osprey por zaloga.

      A more elaborate fire-support variant was proposed in Britain in the autumn of
      1943 using surplus Crusader Mk III tank turrets. A new turret ring was adapted
      to the Staghound and the Staghound turret basket was modified to fit the
      Crusader turret, which was re-armed with a more powerful Mk V 75mm gun
      and a co-axial Besa machine-gun. A Staghound III pilot was put together in
      December 1943 and eventually sent for trials at the Fighting Vehicle Proving
      us MEDIUM AND HEAVY ARMORED CAR PRODUCTION

      STAGHOUND MK 111,11 TROOP, C SQUADRON, 12TH MANITOBA DRAGOONS,
      II CANADIAN CORPS, GERMANY, 1945
      The rebuilt Staghound Mk III was refinished in see 15 Olive Drab, a color adopted by the British
      army in April 1944 to avoid the need to repaint the many us vehicles received via Lend-Lease.
      The British color was essentially similar to US olive drab. As the corps reconnaissance unit, the
      arm-of-service insignia is the usual green/blue square with a white band above. The corps
      insignia is seen on the left side. The squadron insignia is a white circle on black background
      on the glacis plate and rear turret side; inside is the troop number and vehicle number.
      A movement marking is chalked on the right fender. The vehicle census number Fl16572
      is painted on the glacis plate under the squadron marking

      Establishment at Farnborough. However, the trial results were not entirely satisfactory. To begin with, the Crusader turret accommodated only two crew instead of the three in the normal Staghound turret, so the commander had to double as the loader. This created a tactica I disadva ntage since the commander, distracted by these duties, could not observe the fall of shot when the gun fired to provide
      any necessary corrections. The tests dragged on until January 19, 1945, and the
      requirement was trimmed from the original 100 vehicles down to 50. In the end, only 32 vehicles were converted by war's end and the first three were sent to the Canadian XII Manitoba Dragoons in Germany. The Canadians concluded that the
      Staghound III was "probably the best all-round 75mm armoured car available"
      but the type's significance proved to be negligible due to its late arrival

      Mike Starmer

      The Staghounds were US built and therefore delivered in Olive Drab #9. There was no need to change this colour as it was acceptable to use in Italy and NWE. If these were repainted only when required then in NWE it would have been the British SCC 15 Olive Drab, the same for Italy in 1944, so regretably no 'MM' scheme for them. In Italy the NZ force had Staghounds in Light Mud and Black but it appears yet to no set pattern.

      I did some checking up on the Staghound III. The idea was not formed till November 1943 in England that this conversion might be done. It was January 1944 when the first trials were made. Very few were built as there was by then no need for the vehicle. The Polish Corps in Europe had a few but soon sent them back to the rear as they were no good in the recce unit that had them. They were too big and had not enough vision for the job. The Poles kept the M3 75mm halftrack instead which was better. The only colour for them is SCC 15 Olive Drab. None in Italy, all remained in England.

      SCC 15

      SCC Nº 15 Olive Drab

      This is the colour that replaced SCC 2 brown as the basic colour from April 1944 on in NWE and Italy.
      Mix: 5pts XF61 + 2pts XF62 + 2 pts XF3. This is slightly darker than the standard so a wee touch more XF3 would be OK. Then allow for scale effect.

      enlaces.

      http://images.google.es/images?hl=es...-8&sa=N&tab=wi

      http://www.rcaca.org/includes/r-Manitobas.asp

      http://www.12mbdragoons.com/

      http://www.rcaca.org/En/indexLM.asp?ID=11

      http://home.cogeco.ca/~gdavidson1/home.html

      [url]http://betulomodels.blogspot.com/[/url]

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      • #4
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        Además de los Manitoba, el 2nd Household Cavalry y los Royal Dragoons me suena que también recibieron unos cuantos de ellos muy poquito antes de terminar la guerra.
        Javier de Luelmo - Diesel
        DieselWerk - DieselMaschinen

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        • #5
          Respuesta: staghound MKIII

          En todas las fotos lo he visto de un solo color (OD). Algunos perfiles y maquetas los interpretan camuflados, pero no te puedes fiar.
          Haz lo que puedas con lo que tengas

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          • #6
            Respuesta: staghound MKIII

            pues si te interesa tambien puedes hacerlo en medio oriente. recuerdo que por ahi hay fotografias de varios empleados por el Libano hasta 1981.

            saludos.

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            • #7
              Respuesta: staghound MKIII

              Gracias a todos por vuestras respuestas,

              Javier: Buscando fotos y perfiles mientras me respondían al mensaje he visto en un Wydawnictwo el perfil Mickey Mouse que comentas, pero en lo referente a fotos pues tal y como comenta Juan Luis solo fotos en un solo color.

              Xavier: Si finalmente me decanto por hacerlo SGM aprovechare la información que me has aportado.

              Juan Luis: Tampoco he tenido la suerte de ver fotos en otro color que no sea el verde durante la SGM y no creo que me arriesgue a hacer uno camuflado sin ver antes una foto.

              Emanuel: Hay esta foto en Missing Lynx en la cual se ve la parte trasera de la torreta con una cúpula acoplada, este modelo es el que más me interesa por ahora aunque desconozco que tipo de cúpula han empleado, conque si alguien tiene más información sobre este tipo de cúpula sería de agradecer.

              Fuente: http://www.network54.com/Forum/47209...eer+assistance



              Gracias nuevamente a todos,

              Saludos,

              Santiago

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